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you can’t stop the signal, mal

“Everything goes somewhere, and I go everywhere.”

Or, to put it another way, “the internet sees censorship as damage and routes around it.”

On 05MAY13, DefDist successfully optested their almost-entirely-3D-printed handgun, aptly named (for a variety of reasons) “The Liberator”.  It looks like they also unsuccessfully optested it at least once, but that is rather besides the point; the proof of concept has been completed, now it is just a matter of polishing it up.

And speaking of polishing things, the folks at DefCAD went and published the files necessary to print your own Liberator; however, just in case something… untowards… happens to that particular site or file, you may download your own copy from my site here, you are out of luck on account of the Department of State being dicks.  I promise I did absolutely nothing to the file except download it and upload it.

While you are at it, you may also want to download the DefCAD Mega Pack, but I am not going to rehost it here; the file is just about half a GB of 3D file goodness.

Be advised:  I am not a lawyer and my legal advice is worth exactly what you paid for it; however, 3D printing a device that can discharge a cartridge of ammunition will likely result in you creating an Any Other Weapon (specifically on account of the barrel probably not being rifled) and thus in violation of the National Firearms Act (punishments of up to 10 years in prison and $10,000 to $250,000 in fines are possible).  I am not sure if adding rifling would necessarily change this.

Additionally, printing an entirely polymer device capable of discharging a cartridge of ammunition will run you afoul of the Prohibition of Undetectable Firearms Act of 1988 (and 2003, since it was allowed to lapse for five years before being renewed for another 10 in ‘03).  The law is once again due to sunset on 09DEC13, and these new 3D printing developments have already encouraged “Representative” Steve Israel to propose legislation renewing the prohibition and expanding it to include magazines.

The fact that such legislation would be rather pointless appears lost on him.

I am not sure if those two warnings apply to devices that can only discharge black powder and cannot chamber or fire cartridges; I would imagine not, but I would not want to be the test case.

As I recently said on Twitter, book burning was made obsolete by the movable type printing press.  It would appear as though “gun control” has been made obsolete by the three-dimensional printer.

Freedom always wins.

(And just in case someone does not get the reference:

I wish there was a longer version online.)

15 comments to you can’t stop the signal, mal

  • Avoidance

    I am reminded of what my grumpy gunsmith said of my 1911 when I took it in for some work, “Why, that thing is barely a gun”! But I guess the genie is out of the bottle, I expect much hysteria to follow.

  • When I make mine, I’m going to modify the receiver so that “GLOCK 7” is engraved in the side.

  • While the CongressCritter (or whatever the pol is that is trying to ban plastic mags) thinks that banning plastic mags will prevent…something?…I don’t think he can do that and get away with it, because there already exists a plastic magazine, made for a cheapo plastic gun, that is still in circulation.

    And no, the gun is NOT polycarbonate. It truly is PLASTIC, in every sense of the word meaning exactly what one would assume….its a cheap-ass POS.

    The *gun* in question (and I use the term *gun* loosely) is the Grendel P12. The gun came with PLASTIC magazines. Last manufactured in the 1980’s, I believe, by George Kellgren, who morfed his little plastic gun company into the modern-day Kel-Tec. The Grendel P12 is the forerunner to the Kel-Tec P3-AT, or as I like to say, the P12 was the *proof-of-concept* for the P3-AT.

    If Mr. Politican were to ban plastic mags, he would have to carve out exceptions for all the pre Kel-Tec firearms made by Mr. Kellgren, and let me tell ya, there’s tons of them out there. They were cheap throw-away guns. NY Reloads. It cost more to fix them than it did to simply buy a new one.

  • @ Ted N: Equally poignant. Every time someone tries to ban something, everyone else gets interested in it and stocks up in it. This is occasionally frustrating when it comes to things like ammunition and such, but it will be all manner of hilarious when it comes to 3D printers, given they can print new printers.

    That is, after all, rather one of the points.

    @ Avoidance: Like I said, the name is all manner of apt; I would be afraid to fire the original Liberator, and I would be afraid to fire this one… but it sure beats a pointy stick, and it is best viewed as a means to… procure… better hardware.

    @ wizardpc: Me likey.

    @ Dragon: You are assuming the politician in question (1) knows about the firearm(s) in question, and (b) cares that his legislation would ban them.

    My guess is he does not, on both counts.

  • Well, how hard would it be to scratch a spiral in there and call it rifled.

    Now thanks to linogue i have this image of printers printing printers printing printers like some crazy scene from sorcerers apprentice. (complete with music)

  • […] I will maintain that link and create alternate servers if necessary to do so.  It is a natural right of the people to be armed for their own defense.  Any person who opposes that right is not my friend, but my enemy wishing for my enslavement or death and I will fight back. As Linoge said, “You Can’t Stop the Signal.“ […]

  • I think the problem is that the device would have existed (or all of the device’s parts would have existed, if the BATFE wants to go “constructive intent” on you) without a rifled barrel at some point, making at an AOW at some point in its past regardless of its current configuration.

    I am not sure if you can ever de-AOW something, but I do know you cannot AOW it at all without the appropriate licenses.

    Legally, of course.

  • Sendarius

    @ Linoge:
    I don’t see that flying. After all, barrels are made and THEN rifled by manufacturers all the time and no-one accuses THEM of making an AOW.

    If it is truly a concern, print the barrel first, rifle it, then print the rest of the parts.

  • Wanted to bring this up:

    DefDist has temporarily pulled the liberator and some other files down due to ITAR threats from fed.gov. Too bad for those federal assclowns that over 100,000 people have already downloaded this and it’s floating around on torrents galore.


  • Tam

    @ Dragon:
    First handgun I ever filled out a 4473 for was a Grendel P10. Don’t tell anyone. 😀

  • Ted N

    @ Linoge: Thanks!

  • Steve

    “It would appear as though “gun control” has been made obsolete by the three-dimensional printer.”

    It already was obsolete. Hop on the Googles and look up “zip gun”. A trip to the plumbing section of your local hardware store is all you need to construct your own firearm.

    Hell, Amazon sells the Army’s Improvised Munitions Manual.


  • If anyone missed the file and still wants a copy, let me know; I probably can point you in the right direction.

    @ Sendarius: True, but those companies/people in question are actually licensed to produce firearms, whereas I (assuming I had a 3D printer) am not.

    Honestly, I am not sure about the legalities either way, except that I am sure the BATFE will change/alter/adjust their regulations, without notice, to best make life miserable for we the people.

    @ Skas: Yup, saw that, and in light of Joe Huffman’s lawyer’s advice (to him, not me), I have decided to go ahead and pull the files.

    But, really, that is entirely a CYA maneuver on my part, just like my posting them to begin with was a middle finger. As soon as those files went up, they got torrented, and as soon as they got torrented… well, crap, you might as well try to unexplode Fat Man or Little Boy.

    @ Ted N: Were you able to snag the file from here? Shiny.

    @ Steve: Oh, sure, but there is something positively delightful in the mirrored history of printing presses vs. 3D printers.

    Plus, in the end, “gun control” comes down to more than just the firearms in question; 3D printers allow one to create magazines, accessories, and who knows what else as the quality of the prints improve.