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james yeager, helping the "gun control" extremists

Considering that my posts documenting how James Yeager is a coward and how he violated the Tennessee constitution are getting an unusual amount of traffic in recent days, I thought I would take a brief moment to comment on Yeager’s most recent bout of mind-numbing stupidity wherein he stated, "If it goes one inch further, I’m going to start killing people!".

First, just like the Sandy Hook Elementary School murderer, James Yeager is not representative of the average firearm owner, nor is he representative of the average pro-rights activist*. Using those two disgusting (for differing reasons) individuals to paint all firearm owners or pro-rights activists as murderous whackjobs looking for any and all excuses to fly off the handle is nothing more than a hasty generalization logical fallacy – a specious stereotype, in other words – and should be ridiculed and discarded as such.

Second, I refuse to allow my rights to be limited simply because one person who happens to own similar pieces of machined metal as I do cannot keep his temper in check. Or, to put it another way, one nutcase losing his gos-se on an internet video is a wholly insufficient reason to limit everyone else’s rights. You and I both may not like what Yeager says, and, speaking personally, I would very much prefer if he were to crawl in a deep, dark hole and pull it in after him, but so far as I can tell, he is operating within the bounds of the right protected by the First Amendment, and damned if I will not defend that right as much as the one protected by the Second Amendment.

Third, if you have ever received any training from James Yeager in regards to firearms, deadly force, or other related topics, I would strongly recommend that you seek out additional training from other sources such as Mas Ayoob, Larry Vickers, Todd Green, Front Sight, Gunsite, and countless other sources I do not know or cannot remember at the moment (note: I have no affiliation with the places or people named and have received no training from any of them). Why? The training Yeager provided you may have been technically and functionally accurate, but do you really want the prosecution of your self-defense hearing/trial holding up the video of Yeager claiming he is going to "start killing people" as an example of the person who trained you to shoot down that poor choir boy who was only trying to collect money for the Salvation Army mugger/rapist/murder/etc.? Being able to counter with examples of significantly-more-up-standing individuals in the self-defense training community might prove useful.

Fourth, do not even get me started on the cowardice of yanking the above video, claiming he does not retract any of his statements, and then whinging about people re-uploading the original video. If he had pulled the original clip and put up some kind of apology or somesuch in its place, I might consider giving him some credit… but this kind of response screams "hand caught in the cookie jar". Poor baby.

Fifth and finally, James Yeager and his company "Tactical Response" thankfully do not appear to be qualified to provide Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit instruction/training, but Yeager has been lying about his "certifications". I particularly enjoy how his site now says "TN Department of Safety Certified Firearms Instructor (formerly)", when the TN DOS representative TPM quotes states "there is no such certification offered".

[Update] On a related note to Yeager lying about his non-existent "certification" from TN DOS, it would appear as though his handgun carry permit has been revoked by the state of Tennessee "based on a ‘material likelihood of risk of harm to the public’". I cannot say as though I agree with that reasoning being acceptable to revoke a permit, and I have to wonder why that reasoning did not come into play during Yeager’s childish "duel" challenges, but there it is. [/Update]

In closing, like I said on Twitter, I would like to take a moment and thank James Yeager for providing the "gun control" extremists all the ammunition they will need to paint all firearm owners as equally deranged, murderous, and psychotic as he is… as if we did not have enough of that going on with the Sandy Hook murderer as it was. There are a fair number of people I sincerely wish were not "on my side", but this guy is pretty much at the top at the moment…

Of course, while I say that, rumor has it that James Yeager will be on the Ed Show (whatever the hell that is) on MSNBC tonight. Frakking awesome. We could have calm, cool, collected folks like Mr. Colion Noir represent us on national television, but instead we get flaming nutbags like Yeager. Good to see yellow journalism is still alive and well…

(* – I imagine James Yeager would get along with the woefully self-destructive "threeper" community just fine , what with his above-quoted line and absolute lack of any actual action on his part, but even I would not force this over-steroided gas-bag on even that community.)

20 comments to james yeager, helping the "gun control" extremists

  • The anti-rights cultists will use anything to try to deny people their rights. I think the fact that we can rightly point out how rare of an extremist someone like him is a huge point for our side.

    No, we won’t change the mind of a committed gun control advocate but the people sitting on the sidelines will factor that in. First they will note that while they disagree with him saying it and how he said it, they understand the principle. Second, they’ll note how many people on our side condemn his actions/words and how few people are like him.

  • I dare say that is skirting a bit too close to the “broken window fallacy” for my liking – I would much rather my effort were spent convincing average Americans that respecting and exercising your Constitutionally-protected rights is fun and properly American, rather than shooting down the idiocy of people like Yeager here.

  • Yankee Marshall is pretty good, and sane too, but one more old white guy wont help as much as MCN

  • On the plus side if that whack-a-doodle makes good on any of his promises he won’t be a CCW holder.

  • chiefjaybob

    The man is mentally ill.

  • chiefjaybob

    By the way, the host of the Ed Show is the same buffoon who implied Chicago had no gun laws, as evidenced by their sky-high murder total from last year. So it should be another Piers Morgan meets Alex Jones moment. Yea, us.

  • Now he has a calm and rational ‘i was pissed, i should have reviewed it before posting, i changed it when i realized how silly it was’ type video with a lawyer type person advising calm sensible letter writing and the such.

  • @ dave w: Do not know of him, and, honestly, I do not watch MrColionNoir either – I do not have the patience to sit through people reading scripts to me when I read far faster than they speak. But I get the feeling even I would be a better spokesperson for the Second Amendment than this musclebound freak.

    And, like I said, if that had been his initial response to people calling out his “murder people” video for what it was, then I might have been willing to give him a pass. But it was not. Instead, he decided to double down on his murderous stupidity, and that is unforgivable.

    @ Ron Larimer: The news is reporting that the Great State of Tennessee has already revoked/suspended his handgun carry permit. I cannot agree with their rationale for doing so, but at least it decreases the odds of his following through on his murderous threats.

    @ chiefjaybob: There are certainly more than a few screws loose upstairs.

    So, basically, another ignorant talk show host looking for anything that will bolster the viewership numbers of his faltering show? Great.

  • Linoge, I understand your point of view and even respect it, but I am having a hard time feeling sorry for Yeager. In fact, right now my feelings are “Dumbass did it to himself, and serves him right.”

  • at least it decreases the odds of his following through on his murderous threats.

    How? He’s still free, and he still has his guns. If he is going to follow through, there’s nothing stopping him, and he’s not going to care that carrying isn’t legal. Plus, I’d think revoking his carry permit would have a good chance of pushing him to actually carrying through, given what he has claimed his “trigger” would be.

    I’m with you, though – I cannot agree with their rationale for yanking his permit. They should either charge him if he’s broken a law, commit him for evaluation if they really think he’s a danger, or give it back.

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  • @ Erin Palette: I completely agree that James Yeager made his very own hole and should have to suffer the consequences of his actions, however I have a problem when those consequences are borderline extralegal and unquestionably idiotic. Having to ask permission to exercise a Constitutionally-protected right is bad enough, but having the police take that permission away simply because they want to? Yeah, that could never be abused.

    @ Jake: It depends on how broken James’ mind really is – I genuinely believe that he genuinely believed that if someone signed his moronic “duel” contract, and James proceeded to beat him to death, that James would get off scott-free with no problems at all. As such, he never really put that together as being a “illegal” action.

    Now, carrying without a permit? That is unquestionably illegal, and I dare say James knows it… Now, does he care enough not to do anything? I honestly have no idea…

    Unfortunately, attempting to predict the actions of an obviously insane nutjob is fraught with dangers…

  • Being CEO of an outfit like Tactical Response, Yeager should immediately challenge to fight for the seat of the the state Governor or whatever Bureaucrat responsible for deciding laws like these. Alternatively, Yeager could buy up a manufacturing plant and start building Mecha (try Death machine – Stephen Norrington 1994) and fight a 2nd War of Independence for the 2nd Amendment. I’m surprised that the cops aren’t for the 2nd amendment here. They could refuse to take people’s guns.

  • Derek D.

    I find it very disturbing that Yeager’s permit is being revoked without Due Process.

    Something for the state-level 2A org(s) to deal with in the upcoming session, along with getting rid of the need to kiss the King’s ring to exercise your rights. I look forward to TN joining AZ, AK, VT and (sorta) WY.

    All that said, Yeager is a gigantic tool. I’m with you in that I don’t have a problem with this happening to James Yeager but if the State continues down this path the same thing will eventually happen to a decent human being, and that I can’t stomach.

    The idea of using hard-won political capital to enrich that mong by enabling him to hold on to his CCW is nauseating though.

  • […] Still I almost didn’t post it because it mentions that whack-a-doodle… James Yeager! […]

  • @ AgreeToDisagree: I do not even know what to make of that comment.

    @ Derek D.: Unfortunately, the one drawback to consistently and stalwartly defending your rights is that you will occasionally find yourself defending complete and utter scumbags and their actions in the process.

    This is no different.

    I wholly and completely disagree with what James Yeager did, but I also believe his permit never should have been revoked. Screw him for making me defend him.

  • Derek D.

    @Linoge:
    This seems like the 2A version of a KKK free speech case.

  • Pretty much, yeah.

    And you can rest assured our collective enemies will not waste an opportunity to paint us with the brush James so thoughtfully provided them.

  • Screw him for making me defend him.

    Yup.

    This is one of those cases where I wish the laws against assault and batter weren’t so encompassing. Because I’d really like to give him a good smack upside the head while explaining exactly why these bad things are happening to him, but it’s not worth going to jail and losing my CHP over.

  • Seriously. I am not exactly the sharpest bulb in the shed, but even I know that threatening to “kill someone” on YouTube is an absolutely fantastic way to attract attention from all kinds of interesting interested parties. But apparently James does not even possess that modicum of intelligence.