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james yeager violated the tennessee constitution

… and now “shall be punished otherwise, in such manner as the Legislature may prescribe.”  No, seriously. 

After yesterday’s post documenting how James Yeager is a coward, not based on his actions in Iraq, but rather his actions here in America, I was planning on leaving this whole topic alone for the foreseeable future, but this is just too much comedic gold to pass up.  As was pointed out to me by WizardPC, dueling is 100% forbidden and illegal here in the Great State of Tennessee, per Article IX, Section 3 of the state’s Constitution

Any person who shall, after the adoption of this Constitution, fight a duel, or knowingly be the bearer of a challenge to fight a duel, or send or accept a challenge for that purpose, or be an aider or abettor in fighting a duel, shall be deprived of the right to hold any office of honor or profit in this State, and shall be punished otherwise, in such manner as the Legislature may prescribe.

Tennessee is hardly alone in this provision, with Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Oregon, South Carolina, and West Virginia all having Constitutional clauses prohibiting dueling, with numerous other states having statutory prohibitions against dueling.  Personally, being the small-l libertarian I am, I disagree with both the Constitutional articles and the laws criminalizing dueling, but the law is the law, and if you want to do something that is currently illegal, you need to change the law first. 

JamesYeagerViolatesTNConstitutionDuelWhich brings us to Thursday at 2319, when James Yeager posted the following idiocy on his Facebook page

I _______________________ willingly accept a challenge to duel from James Yeager. I understand we will use the “Code Duello” as our only rules. I understand that all firearms and swords are deadly and dueling will be hazardous. My participation WILL be dangerous. The outcome of these dangers may include, but are not limited to: DEADLY FORCE which is the amount of force that will cause death or great bodily harm. GREAT BODILY HARM is defined as injury that creates a substantial risk of death, protracted unconsciousness, protracted or permanent disfigurement or the loss or impairment of the use of a bodily member, organ or faculty. I may also have personal property damage.

I _________________________hold no other person, corporation, or entity responsible for my safety, medical care, or welfare besides myself. I desire to participate at my own peril. I further understand that I may be held liable for any damage or loss to Tactical Response that is caused by my dependents, willful misconduct, or fraud while participating in these activities. I also understand my image or likeness may be used in all forms and media for advertising, trade, or any other purpose.

I ____________________________hold Tactical Response Inc, Tactical Response Gear Inc, and James Yeager HARMLESS to all criminal and civil matters that arise from my acceptance of this duel.

_________________ ____________________ ____________________

Date Print Name Signature

_________________ ____________________ ____________________

Date Print Name Signature

NOTARY PUBLIC (Must be notarized.)

_________________ ____________________ ____________________

Date Print Name Signature

*Please include a copy of your state issued identification and that of your witness and your Second. You second must also sign a copy of this form.

Yes, that is a dueling contract.  Yes, James Yeager lives in, Camden, Tennessee, and his “facility”, Tactical Response, is based out of there. 

Being the so very helpful person I am, I commented at his Facebook thread: 

Apparently James Yeager is ignorant of Tennessee State Code, specifically Article IX, Section 3, which reads, and I quote: 

“Any person who shall, after the adoption of this Constitution, fight a duel, or knowingly be the bearer of a challenge to fight a duel, or send or accept a challenge for that purpose, or be an aider or abettor in fighting a duel, shall be deprived of the right to hold any office of honor or profit in this State, and shall be punished otherwise, in such manner as the Legislature may prescribe.”

One can only hope his local authorities prosecute him appropriately for violating the Constitution of Tennessee.  Likewise, if James is so massively ignorant of Tennessee’s state laws, why would *anyone* trust him to be their firearm trainer? 

Within 20 minutes, James Yeager further demonstrated his cowardice by deleting that comment (with a “Go f—k yourself.” thrown in for good measure) and banned me from commenting on his profile.  Thankfully, being used to small-minded imbeciles like James who do not want the world to know they are wrong, I thought ahead, and took the screen capture you see to the right. 

IMIGHTDIETODAYOf course, the real hilarity of all of this was pointed out to me by ENDO-Mike, who brought this whole, sad idiocy to my attention – if one examines the properties of the Word document wherein James Yeager typed up that wholly illegal-in-Tennessee “dueling contract”, you will see that the document’s title is not actually “DUEL ACCEPTANCE”, but rather, “I MIGHT DIE TODAY”.  I do not think I can adequately describe how pathetic it is that something shaped like a man is willing to die and is accepting of that possibility all because of some internet name-calling.  Absurd.

So let us recap the situation, just for good measure: 

- Even so much as being the bearer of a challenge to a duel is illegal here in Tennessee. 

- Anyone who participates in, challenges someone to, bears the challenge of, or aids and abets a dual is prohibited from holding any office of honor or profit in Tennessee and may be punished as the Tennessee state legislature decides (cannot say as though I am a huge fan of that open-ended clause, but there it is). 

- James Yeager has challenged anyone willing to accept to a duel, complete with a “dueling contract”.  I am still not a lawyer, but that would seem to satisfy “send… a challenge for that purpose” or “be an aider or abettor”, though, once again, this may be a situation where a specific “target” must be expressed for the law to be applicable.  In any case, all that needs to happen is someone accept Yeager’s challenge, and there is no question whatsoever. 

Like I said, even looking past James’ other deficiencies as a trainer, if he is so massively ignorant of Tennessee state law that he does something expressly forbidden by the state’s Constitution itself, why would anyone think it is a good idea to take classes from him?  Barring an acute case of Gell-Mann Amnesia, you know he is not following state laws himself; why should you believe what he is teaching you is within their bounds? 

16 comments to james yeager violated the tennessee constitution

  • [...] Even More from Linoge! Turns out carrying on like this is indeed a crime. [...]

  • This and the several other violent threats he’s made against trolls has totally screwed him if he ever has to defend his own life with lethal force.

    Doesn’t matter if the person harmed is a known violent criminal, Yeager has just unequivocally stated he’s willing to murder somebody in a pre-medidtated fashion over something as pedestrian as an insult.

    He might as well just sell his guns now, they’ll only land him in prison.

  • Anyone who has been on the receiving end of personal attacks and slanders on the Internet knows how painful it can be, and so it is understandable why Yeager did what he did with his video. Was it wise? I don’t think so. Helpful? Doubt it. But, whatever, it’s a free country.

    He has crossed a pretty serious line with his challenge to duel. That was just stupid and it is a shame his anger drove him to this unwise decision. He should take his own advice here and “get off the X” and get on with his life and stop playing schoolyard bully.

    It would be ironic if he gets himself in legal hot water over this.

  • @ Weer’d Beard: Honestly, I do not worry a great deal about that man’s future – given his violent, sociopathic tendencies, it is only a matter of time before he finds himself behind bars, and the world will probably be the better for it. I just hope he does not kill too many innocents in the process.

    No, the folks I feel bad for are those individuals who took classes from Yeager, for whatever reasons, without being aware of his “extracurricular activities”. Should those unfortunate HCP holders ever find themselves in a situation where they have to defend themselves, much less kill someone, with their sidearm, you can be guaranteed that these videos and “contracts” will be presented by the prosecution in their eventual cases. “You received training from someone who threatens to murder people over internet insults? ORLY?”

    @ Paul T. McCain: It is, indeed, a free country, and, just like you, he is free to parade his lack of integrity until the cows come home.

    Just like I am free to comment on it as I see fit.

  • Having numbnuts make dumb comments about you and what you do is part and parcel of the instant feedback world we live in. Don’t want the good along with the bad? Start at a gunblog that purports to tell The Truth About … Firearms.
    :D
    Yeager does some great videos, but I will not take him seriously as long as he’s ok with putting photographers in harm’s way.

    If he wants photos of his students taken from downrange, he should take them himself.

    Only a coward would send someone into a dangerous situation they’re not prepared to go themselves.

  • I can’t ever imagine paying money for training from this individual. His personality definitely attracts like-minded folks as seen by the comments of his supporters in that screenshot. There is precious little in this world that should be taken with more seriousness than training to possibly take a life to save your own. Ego and flippant threats of violence have zero place in anyone training folks for self-defense. I wholeheartedly agree that any individual having trained at that school will be lucky if Mr. Yeager and his school isn’t brought up if their DGU comes to trial.

  • Based on my (likely poor) interpretation of that particular law, it would seem that his issuing the challenge to duel and having a contract would be a prosecutable offense.
    I would like to see him get in legal trouble over that.
    I doubt anyone in the firearms community likes him, and I am pretty sure most people would like to see him cut down, and would be more than willing to fan the flames of his demise.
    His alienating people in the community seems like it will very soon come back around to bite him.

  • [...] Now, things have reached a new level of stupidity: He has issued a dueling contract and a challenge to duel anyone who would express the opinion that he is a coward. Naturally, this dueling challenge is against Tennessee law. [...]

  • NoneYaBusiness

    Does Tennessee have any kind of Baker Act or 51/50 laws where police can take him to a hospital to get evaluated mentally/psychologically?

  • I’d sooner take self-defense training from these Jägers….

  • Tobedetermined

    Probably ‘roid rage. I’ll bet if we saw some before/after photos side by side you could see some juicing going on.
    Funny- you don’t hear of any other instructors going on like this. Larry Vickers has gotten plenty of flak for his weight, but I don’t think he threatened to shoot anyone.

  • @ ExurbanKevin: Seriously. This is definitely a case where if Yeager cannot stand the heat – and he obviously cannot – he should kindly step out of the kitchen and stop making it so damned difficult for the rest of us to convince fence-sitters that we are not all rage-fueled imbeciles looking for someone to murder… like he is.

    The photos bit likewise really pisses me off as well… Given modern technology, there is simply no need.

    @ 480Volt: As Weer’d said over his way, if anyone has ever taken a self-defense course from Yeager, I would strongly suggest taking another course from Ayoob or something similar, and keeping documentation of the latter course in a very safe, fire-proof location. Then when the prosecution presents Yeager’s course, the defense can present Ayoob’s course, and hopefully “not whackjob” trumps “whackjob”.

    @ Nyanman: A reader raised an interesting point in an email to me – by broadcasting Yeager’s duel challenge, I am, in effect, “knowingly be[ing] the bearer of a challenge to fight a duel”. Does that mean I am violating the TN Constitution? Does that mean newspapers cannot report on duel challenges until after the challenge has been satisfied?

    That is a very peculiarly written law, but I do not think there can be any question he has functionally violated both the letter and the spirit of it.

    At the very least, I hope his prospective future students take note of this situation and steer clear in the future… Unfortunately, given the comments on his YouTube threads, he seems to have enough imbeciles who thinks he walks on water to keep on going on for a while…

    @ NoneYaBusiness: It would appear as though Tennessee State Code 33-6-5 would be a non-emergency version of Florida’s Baker Act, and, specifically, TN State Code 33-6-501 reads:

    IF AND ONLY IF

    (1) (A) a person has threatened or attempted suicide or to inflict serious bodily harm on the person, OR

    (B) the person has threatened or attempted homicide or other violent behavior, OR

    (C) the person has placed others in reasonable fear of violent behavior and serious physical harm to them, OR

    (D) the person is unable to avoid severe impairment or injury from specific risks, AND

    (2) there is a substantial likelihood that the harm will occur unless the person is placed under involuntary treatment,

    THEN

    (3) the person poses a “substantial likelihood of serious harm” for purposes of this title.

    I am hardly a lawyer, but I dare say Yeager’s behavior fits the bill.

    @ AuricTech: I have no idea what that is, but apparently I must find out :).

    @ Tobedetermined: I have never seen nor heard of any reputable trainers behaving in anything even approximating this fashion. Anywhere.

  • @AuricTech: +1 on the Jägers.

    Linoge, I think you will really like Girl Genius. Set aside a long weekend and start from the beginning.

  • Well, the holidays are coming up… ;)

  • Thomas

    This is stupid. The problem is, people in this country do not recognize and confuse a controlling, thieving, slow prying government. You need to understand that they crossed the line with background checks when buying a firearm. Even now it is difficult to open carry without having to lose your 4th amendment right.(unlawful search). You don’t understand that we are already taxed too much, not even able to recognize were are keeping people from learning that the 2nd amendment was for the people to be their own army and not an army controlled by government. Read the Federalist Papers and you will read why we all have the right to have and train with military grade weaponry, and vehicles.

  • I am sorry, but did you see the part where I think laws against dueling are stupid? Or did you skip that on your way to your pie in the sky?

    Yes, the overwhelming majority of firearm-related laws are asinine and in direct contravention of what our Founding Fathers appeared to have wanted for our country. None of that changes the fact that James Yeager violated the Tennessee constitution by challenging untold numbers of people to a duel, and none of that changes the fact that James Yeager is a goddamned moron for threatening people on a YouTube video.