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a bit more information on the zip

A week after first posting about it, and about two weeks until its "official" website launch, the guys behind the ZiP pistol have heard your questions and provided some answers.

Among the useful bits of information to come out are:

- Yes, it can use a suppressor. Apparently the top strap of the firearm either hides or is a barrel wrench that can be used to remove the existing barrel and screw in new ones, including threaded options. It takes a bit of work, and may not exactly be a field task, but the option is there.

- Yes, those two rods over the barrel are its charging rods… or, at least, one of them is. The other is a "restrike" rod that resets the firing mechanism without actually cycling in a new round, allowing you another shot at that stubborn primer, or an easy way of press-checking the firearm. I still cannot say as though I am terribly keen on putting my fingers that close to the barrel, but I guess we will have to see.

- The gun itself weighs 15.2 ounces, unloaded. Honestly, that seems a bit heavy; the Kel-Tec P-32 masses 6.6 ounces empty, and the PMR-30 weighs in at 13.6 ounces, with the latter shooting more, more-powerful rounds than the ZiP.

- They claim to have revolutionary new safety mechanisms built into the gun, but I honestly do not know enough about current ones, or about what they are talking about, to have a blessed clue.

Anywise, they have made a first draft of the owner/operator manual available online, so that should answer most of the current questions floating around the intertubes.

I still want one. In fact, if they can maintain the $200 price point, I may get one as soon as they roll off the assembly line. There is something about an inexpensive firearm that shoots stupidly-commonly-available ammunition from stupidly-commonly-available magazines and can fit into a purse or cargo pocket that just trips my giggle switch. As Sendarius said, is USFA were to release the designs for that thing on a 3D printer and sell the inner, metal bits themselves, "gun control" would be deader than the proverbial door knob. Hell, as it is, the ZiP is only a few steps away from being a better version of a "blister pack" gun.

In fact, given its name, the way it is presented, its affordability, and a few other nuance-y details, I would almost bet U.S. Firearms was intending this to be a mainline, mainstream, actually-reusable Liberator pistol. I would be lying if I were to say that marketing did not affect me.

6 comments to a bit more information on the zip

  • Yikes! Those are the op rods? I’ve never had a hang-fire in a .22 LR, but I imagine the first person to have one is going to be in for an ugly surprise, and hopefully not a trip to the ER.

    Then again having a hang-fire in a .22 and racking the slide of any .22 pistol too soon could result in “severe tire damage” anyway.

    Just looking at the sales of Hi-Point, Cobra, and all the little potmetal “Ring of Fire” guns out there, just producing a gun that works in the vaguest sense of the word and slapping a low price tag on it is a sure way to sell volumes.

    Good luck to them!

  • They make rather a big deal about the whole “if you pull the trigger and the gun does not go off, wait at least 30 seconds before…” in the instruction manual, so I would imagine they are a bit concerned about where the oprods are in relation to the barrel as well… but, honestly, given the lack of an external slide and the way you grip the thing, I am not sure what other options they would really have. An AR-15-style thing might work, but I am not sure how that would interface with the removable top strap.

    But, really, how many actual, legitimate .22 hangfires have you ever heard of/witnessed? Sure, they used to be as common as dirt, but even asking an Appleseed instructor, he said he had seen all of one (unfortunately, one that occurred outside of a chamber, though thankfully no one was hurt).

    Reliability is my main concern, but if they can clear that hurdle, I do believe this thing could take off pretty easily…

  • Mark@Sea

    You’ll have to loan it to me for a few days, I’ve got an idea for a holster.

    As for the oprods, I’d sure feel better if they had a tab on the side.

  • Holsters for it are going to be interesting, given that the only way to pull it out of one aside from the trigger itself is by that little loop underneath it… Going to take some kind of strange retention system to keep it in place.

  • @ Linoge:
    Yeah the only hangfires I’ve ever witnessed were from OLD (and probably poorly stored) surplus ammo…and even then, many of them were only perceivable if you were the one pulling the trigger. We’re talking fractions of one second.

    With .22 it either goes bang or it doesn’t. Given that I’m probably over a million rounds personally fired, and witnessed probably twice as many as that, I’d be willing to stake my safety on “Never happens”, because with those statistics its as close as you’ll ever get.

  • Yup, that jives with my experience, though I do like the ability of the ZiP to re-strike the existing cartridge just in case it was a light strike or a bad spot on the rim or something – of the rounds that did not go off on the first strike and that I recovered, about half of them went off on a second strike, so there is that.

    Of course, all of the issues people do legitimately have with .22LR cartridges are extraordinarily good reasons for this not to be used as a legitimate self-defense firearm; even the best .22 round could potentially fail at the worst possible time, and considering that you are already using an arguably underpowered round…



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