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I tell you what – bullpup firearms may be a questionable idea with dubious ergonomics (or not, depending on your perspectives), but they are definitely catching on.

Aside from the Kel-Tec KSG (which is not a conversion kit) and the Neostead (which is also not a conversion kit, and was pumped "backwards"), this is one of the few bullpup-configuration pump-action shotguns still produced, kit or otherwise, and it offers a few intriguing features, including AR-15-compatible pistol grips, a loss of ten inches on the overall length of the shotgun, and an integrated "split-trigger" safety mechanism.

If you are not into the whole "pumping" thing, Saigas have bullpup kit offerings from CBRPS, CenterFire Systems, and Kushnapup.

And those are just the shotguns… CBRPS (AK clones, Mosin-Nagants, SKS, Remington 597, Ruger 10/22), Muzzelite (10/22, Mini-14, Marlin 60, Marlin 70, Marlin Camp 9), RifleTech.net (SKS), Dixie Consolidated (10/22), Shernic Gun Works (SKS), ShortRifles (M1A), J. Bunting Machine (10/22), and probably others offer various kits to transform your "normal" rifle into a bullpup; and the Kel-Tec RFB, Steyr AUG, DTA SRS, Walther G22, FN PS90, and FN FS2000 all come from the factory with the magazine-behind-the-trigger configuration (as does the IWI Tavor, though it does not look like we will ever be able to get one of those, now that Charles Daly folded).

Of course, I say all of this without ever actually having had the opportunity to fire a bullpup-configured firearm, which is something I hope to correct in the hopefully near future – I was rather hoping airsoft would give me the chance to shoot something bullpup-ish, but all of those configurations are officially branded by their original companies, and as expensive as you might expect them to be. In any case, the concept is definitely here to stay… the only question becomes, what to do with it?

9 comments to here for the duration

  • Sigh. Why are the cool things only for the Rem 870? Where’s the Mossy love?

  • One of the complaints about bullpups in general was that the muzzle is closer to your ears.

    Also, the conversion kits for non-bullpup designs often have problems with their triggers. The trigger group is usually near the firing pin. If you move the location of the trigger, linking it to the parts it has to move is never easy or without some cost. Maybe the trigger gets heavier, or mushier.

  • Pyrotek85

    I’m not sure how I feel about the AK variant bullpups. The magazine has to cant forward to swap out, which looks like it’d be difficult to do while holding it in a firing position. If I get a bullpup it would probably be one that’s made as one from the ground up, like the KSG. Heck, I could get a Draco and make it an SBR too if I wanted something short and stable.

  • Braden Lynch

    @Erin Palette,

    Indeed, where is the love for the Mossberg shotguns? Especially with their ideal safety located in plain view on the top of the receiver? It’s both visible and intuitive.

    Despite my unnatural affection for my Mossberg 590A1 SPX (complete with bayonet!), I am intrigued by the Kel-Tec KSG due to its short length. I just hope the price is right and that it proves to be reliable.

  • Oddball

    I’m curious how many folks that complain about bullpups being awkward to use are simply forgetting how awkward a conventional rifle was to them when they first started shooting. Any time you put something in a completely different place than where they’re used to, people are going to have some issues.

  • @ Erin Palette:
    I might just argue that Mossbergs are awesome right out of the box! ;)

  • Bob H

    My darling wife regularly outshoots the AR crowd at a nearby range with her PS90 at 100 yards. It is also her house gun. I have to admit that it is very accurate and fun to shoot! It has gotten to the point where I buy the 5.7 in lots of 1,000 or more whenever I see it for a good price.

  • Bob H

    Also regarding “Pressing “Submit” below constitutes an agreement by the commenter to accept, abide by, and respect the Terms of Use, and specifically the Commenting Policy, of this site.”…
    You are aware that there is no “submit” button, right?

  • @ Erin Palette: Having had the dubious honor of field-stripping a locked-up Mossy, I kind of understand why not… ;)

    @ Gunnutmegger: Owning a 16″ M1A, that kind of thing really does not matter to me, and, anywise, that gives you more (less?) space to mount a suppressor and not affect the overall length of the firearm!

    Regarding the trigger, that is definitely a problem, but my understanding is that such things are improving over time, as the design gets more polished… as all designs do.

    @ Pyrotek85: Dunno about the AKs… Apparently the SKSs are likewise dubious ideas, but some systems are almost screaming for it.

    @ Braden Lynch: The KSG definitely screams “awesome” to me, but it is going to have to pass some damned rigorous testing for me to consider purchasing one.

    @ Oddball: There is that – people get set into their ways, especially if they have been using their ways for decades, and changing things never makes friends or influences people. Folks like me who are still new to the whole manual of arms may be able to pick them up better… dunno.

    @ Weer’d Beard: Eh, is shotgun. Is already cool.

    @ Bob H: I so want a PS90, but I cannot swing the cost of ammo… good to hear she is doing well with it though! It is definitely a love-it-or-hate-it, but that is more due to the foregrip arrangement than the bullpup configuration, from what I hear.

    Also, *stealth edit*!



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