Comments on: piss poor planning

By: Linoge

Linoge — Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:10:26 +0000

Heartless Libertarian: I guess we will find out in a few weeks, but that definitely seems like a good standard operating procedure.
Sean: I think there is some element of what Jay Tea was talking about at play – I can certainly see how the SEALS do not want the record of any captain’s/admiral’s mast on their records, even if that mast in question was overturned at a later court martial. Going staight to the CM, if it is an acquittal, that will look a lot better than being found “guilty” at a mast, and then fighting to overturn it later – at least for people who care about that level of integrity.
That, or maybe there really is something they want publicized at the court martial – something that would not otherwise come out at the mast.
In any case, I definitely agree with your ending sentiment – this whole thing is either a bleeding farce, or goes far deeper than we have been allowed to know about. If the former, I hope the prosecution comes out limping, figuratively or literally.

By: Sean Sorrentino

Sean Sorrentino — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:25:43 +0000

it seems strange to me that they didn’t take the Captains Mast, declare their innocence, and if they lost at that level, appeal to a Court Martial. you can appeal Non JudiciaL Punishment to a CM, and if you lose at that level, they cannot impose a greater sentence at the CM level than you was imposed at the NJP level.
i hope that they break it off in the behinds of those prosecuting them.

By: Heartless Libertarian

Heartless Libertarian — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:19:58 +0000

Now, one of the things my battalion commander told me, back when I was a company commander: don’t bother even trying to give an Article 15 (NJP) if you can’t back it up if the soldier decides he wants a full court martial.
I’m wondering if the SEAL CO operates under that rule, or not.