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By: Linoge

Linoge — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 07:40:46 +0000

Amusingly, Mike, that is exactly the reason I am slowly considering open carry in the future… As I see it, concealed carriers are far too easy to marginalize, demonize, and stereotype, simply because the vast majority of people in Tennessee (and the rest of the country) have no idea who they are. Open carry may sacrifice a tactical advantage, and give more than a few people pause, but it also shows that we are more numerous than some people would have others believe, and also shows that we really are just every-day people, with every-day lives.
Sometimes, just sometimes, “exposure” is not a bad thing.
As for my current concealed habits, that is a byproduct of not having entirely reached the desire to open carry, and me being cheap – open carrying at least warrants a nice 1911…

By: Mike from Tennessee Knives

Mike from Tennessee Knives — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:03:21 +0000

I will only carry my weapon concealed because of all the people that freak if they see someone with a gun in a holster. Best not to cause any unnecessary ruckus.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:22:37 +0000

Well, I guess it is good to see that NC is not abusing the “terror of the public” clause. That particular phrase seems like something that would be far too easy to misuse for other purposes.
But, like I said, I IWB carry now, and have no OWB holsters, so the point is somewhat moot for me. I was just collating data, as they say .
Unfortunately, Better Half and I are headed for your western hills, but I will definitely take you up on that “cold one” offer in the future .

By: chris

chris — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:44:25 +0000

OC is legal in NC, i do it all the time… some cities prohibit it on their property, but that does effect anyone very often… one city, Chapel Hill, bans open carry of guns under a certain length barrel…
as for going armed to the terror of the public…
there are 4 criteria that have to be met for this offense to be charged. the following is according to the NC LEO handbook:
“”Elements – A person is guilty of this offense if:
(1) he arms himself with unusual and dangerous weapons
(2) for the purpose of terrifying others
(3) and goes about on public highways
(4) in a manner to cause terror to others.”
In the Notes section is added
“Element (4) For this offense to be committed, it is not necessary that the defendant actually assault anyone, and it may not be necessary that anyone actually be terrified as long as the defendant acts “in such a manner as will naturally cause a terror to the people.”
Under Element (3) is the comment, “It appears that the offense would not occur if the defendant remained on private premises.”"
i have only seen this charged two times in the last 2 years… once was for a man charged with armed robbery as well… the other was a man that got into a standoff with police and threatened them with a grenade…
email me if you have any other questions… also, if you are going to be anywhere near the triad, email me and ill save a cold one for ya…

By: Linoge

Linoge — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:11:48 +0000

Wow. That is… complicated. I think I will just stick to my standard IWB carrying, and leave it at that. Thanks for the clarification, though!

By: Mike stollenwerk

Mike stollenwerk — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:50:17 +0000

open carry of military sized handguns is protected by the NC constitution per State v Kerner (holding NC constitution forbids requirement for permit to open carry military sized handguns).
The statutory authorization for localities to regulate the “display” of guns must therfore be limited to somthing other than open carry of military sized handguns in holsters.

By: Linoge

Linoge — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:07:59 +0000

Ah, I did not know that. Thanks for the clarification!

By: sean sorrentino

sean sorrentino — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:07:00 +0000

“though I am not entirely sure how that works with Alaska not having a permit”
not really true. Alaska has no law against carrying concealed. they will, however, issue a permit that will satisfy the other states.