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		<title>By: walls of the city</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1138</link>
		<dc:creator>walls of the city</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;strike the colors&lt;/strong&gt;

As if I did not already have enough things trying to steal my money away, I go and stumble across this. I do not know about you, but I definitely could do with the Unknown Soldier photo, or the Raptor...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>strike the colors</strong></p>
<p>As if I did not already have enough things trying to steal my money away, I go and stumble across this. I do not know about you, but I definitely could do with the Unknown Soldier photo, or the Raptor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1137</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The little plastic doohicky you use to mount the sling on the front part of your AR15.  Sling-mount-doohicky.  To replace the one that is spazzing out on you.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The little plastic doohicky you use to mount the sling on the front part of your AR15.  Sling-mount-doohicky.  To replace the one that is spazzing out on you.</p>
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		<title>By: dirtcrashr</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>dirtcrashr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senior moment - what doohicky?  Or...which one, oh the chamber flag converted to &quot;tool&quot; that must be used? :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senior moment &#8211; what doohicky?  Or&#8230;which one, oh the chamber flag converted to &#8220;tool&#8221; that must be used? <img src='http://www.wallsofthecity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1135</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dirtcrashr:&lt;/strong&gt;  Ideally, I would like to be able to mount both the foregrip and my bipod, and then flip between the two as necessary (hence the foldy requirement).  The FUG certainly looks like a fairly good piece of eqiupment, though I do like the ones that have internal battery storage.  And, no, the VFG is definitely not meant for manhandling, but that is why I am also looking for sling and attachment options (forgot to mention that).  Speaking of, where did your little plastic doohicky come from?
&lt;strong&gt;Shane:&lt;/strong&gt;  Awesome find, Shane.  I am always somewhat afraid of buying magazines that far below the market average price, so it is good to have a recommendation :).
&lt;strong&gt;Joe:&lt;/strong&gt;  Trust me, my goals at a Boomershoot would basically amount to hitting a boomer about one out of every ten shots.  I simply do not have experience at that range, and I would just be there for the fun of it (and what is more fun than exploding targets?).  In reality, that is the path I should have taken with my rifle, but the M1A just caught my eye, and I have been (thankfully) happy with it since.  Its only shortcoming will probably be extended range work, and as long as it can reach 400-500ish (which, supposedly, even its abbreviated barrel can), I will still be happy.  Thanks for the insight, though.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Dirtcrashr:</strong>  Ideally, I would like to be able to mount both the foregrip and my bipod, and then flip between the two as necessary (hence the foldy requirement).  The FUG certainly looks like a fairly good piece of eqiupment, though I do like the ones that have internal battery storage.  And, no, the VFG is definitely not meant for manhandling, but that is why I am also looking for sling and attachment options (forgot to mention that).  Speaking of, where did your little plastic doohicky come from?<br />
<strong>Shane:</strong>  Awesome find, Shane.  I am always somewhat afraid of buying magazines that far below the market average price, so it is good to have a recommendation <img src='http://www.wallsofthecity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
<strong>Joe:</strong>  Trust me, my goals at a Boomershoot would basically amount to hitting a boomer about one out of every ten shots.  I simply do not have experience at that range, and I would just be there for the fun of it (and what is more fun than exploding targets?).  In reality, that is the path I should have taken with my rifle, but the M1A just caught my eye, and I have been (thankfully) happy with it since.  Its only shortcoming will probably be extended range work, and as long as it can reach 400-500ish (which, supposedly, even its abbreviated barrel can), I will still be happy.  Thanks for the insight, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8x will get you a few boomers.
My general philosophy on gun purchasing is to use something cheap that will still work. Then I use it enough to reach the point where I know the equipment is holding me back. By that time I will know emough about the problem to buy the right equipment or perhaps know that I don&#039;t want to participate in that shooting sport.
Basically, first I explore, then I get serious. Your 8x (or 10X) scope and the M1A will be enough for you to play the game even if you aren&#039;t going to impress the oldtimers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8x will get you a few boomers.<br />
My general philosophy on gun purchasing is to use something cheap that will still work. Then I use it enough to reach the point where I know the equipment is holding me back. By that time I will know emough about the problem to buy the right equipment or perhaps know that I don&#8217;t want to participate in that shooting sport.<br />
Basically, first I explore, then I get serious. Your 8x (or 10X) scope and the M1A will be enough for you to play the game even if you aren&#8217;t going to impress the oldtimers.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI,
20rd USGI M1A mags at 44mag.com for $19.99 ea.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CM20&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CM20&lt;/a&gt;
I have five of these myself and so far have never had any issues with them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI,<br />
20rd USGI M1A mags at 44mag.com for $19.99 ea.<br />
<a href="http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CM20">http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CM20</a><br />
I have five of these myself and so far have never had any issues with them.</p>
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		<title>By: dirtcrashr</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My interests have turned towards fore-grips also, but folding &#039;em hasn&#039;t been one of the criteria.
However a QD release and metal in the mechanism has been and also I didn&#039;t want a huge one, so I got as far as the LaRue FUG:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/FUG/FUG.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/FUG/FUG.html&lt;/a&gt;
The Bobro:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&amp;product_id=808&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&amp;product_id=808&lt;/a&gt;
and the TangoDown BGV-MK46 short:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tangodown.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=26&amp;products_id=101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tangodown.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=26&amp;products_id=101&lt;/a&gt;
From my understanding the VFG isn&#039;t for carrying or hanging onto so much as directing the muzzle quickly to the target.
I still don&#039;t have any scopes besides the Aimpoint dot.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My interests have turned towards fore-grips also, but folding &#8216;em hasn&#8217;t been one of the criteria.<br />
However a QD release and metal in the mechanism has been and also I didn&#8217;t want a huge one, so I got as far as the LaRue FUG:<br />
<a href="http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/FUG/FUG.html">http://www.laruetactical.com/pics/FUG/FUG.html</a><br />
The Bobro:<br />
<a href="http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&#038;product_id=808">http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&#038;product_id=808</a><br />
and the TangoDown BGV-MK46 short:<br />
<a href="http://tangodown.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=26&#038;products_id=101">http://tangodown.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=26&#038;products_id=101</a><br />
From my understanding the VFG isn&#8217;t for carrying or hanging onto so much as directing the muzzle quickly to the target.<br />
I still don&#8217;t have any scopes besides the Aimpoint dot.</p>
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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... crap.
The problem I am encountering is one of hardware - the M1A I have simply cannot mount a scope far enough back for 10x+ levels of magnification.  (Well, I could, but it would require dangerously cantilevering the thing over an area where pieces of hot brass would be repeatedly launched into it.)  And the cutoff for extended eye-relief scope seems to be about 8x.  &lt;strong&gt;[Update:]&lt;/strong&gt;  Seems as though I was a little off on that... might just find something usable yet.&lt;strong&gt;[/Update]&lt;/strong&gt;
Of course, I &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; use this as leverage to acquire a new firearm more suited to long-distance work... however, considering the projected costs I am already looking at, I would have to get used to sleeping on the couch.
Eh, I figure a 8x scope would at least put the closest of the boomers at around 50 yards, and I can consistently manage an inch group at that range.  Ideally, that would mean I might hit somewhere around half the time...
Yeah, I am not holding my breath either.
*sigh*  It might &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; be 2010 before I can make it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; crap.<br />
The problem I am encountering is one of hardware &#8211; the M1A I have simply cannot mount a scope far enough back for 10x+ levels of magnification.  (Well, I could, but it would require dangerously cantilevering the thing over an area where pieces of hot brass would be repeatedly launched into it.)  And the cutoff for extended eye-relief scope seems to be about 8x.  <strong>[Update:]</strong>  Seems as though I was a little off on that&#8230; might just find something usable yet.<strong>[/Update]</strong><br />
Of course, I <em>could</em> use this as leverage to acquire a new firearm more suited to long-distance work&#8230; however, considering the projected costs I am already looking at, I would have to get used to sleeping on the couch.<br />
Eh, I figure a 8x scope would at least put the closest of the boomers at around 50 yards, and I can consistently manage an inch group at that range.  Ideally, that would mean I might hit somewhere around half the time&#8230;<br />
Yeah, I am not holding my breath either.<br />
*sigh*  It might <em>really</em> be 2010 before I can make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Huffman</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/10/just_as_well.html#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An 8X scope is consider a little marginal for Boomershoot. I have hit a few targets with a 3.4X scope but that was only the closest targets. Most people regard the minimum magnification to be &quot;competitive&quot; (it isn&#039;t really a competition) is 10X.
But 8X is better than no scope at all.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An 8X scope is consider a little marginal for Boomershoot. I have hit a few targets with a 3.4X scope but that was only the closest targets. Most people regard the minimum magnification to be &#8220;competitive&#8221; (it isn&#8217;t really a competition) is 10X.<br />
But 8X is better than no scope at all.</p>
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