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		<title>By: Linoge</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/09/no_addition_required.html/comment-page-1#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>Linoge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, first, sorry about the delay in responding...  Been a hell of a few days.  Second, you are right, David - When you put Palin and Reagan side by side, she simply does not measure up to his metric.  &lt;em&gt;That said&lt;/em&gt;, in my limited and still naive perspective, she is about as close as we are going to get to him in this time.  You are right (again) - public speaking has basically boiled down to rabble-rousing, giving people what they want, bread and circuses, and generally catering to the smallest common denominator.  Palin really did none of that.  Did she perform the oratory masterpieces that Reagan was known for in his time?  Not really.  Did she put the supposed oratorical master (Obama) to shame, being something of a newbie herself to the crowd?  Absolutely.  Of course, given the honestly poor quality she was going up against, that would not really be too difficult.
Obama is a competent and surprisingly skillful speaker... to the crowds he speaks to.  He gets them riled up, gets them energized, and gets them moving in a common direction.  I find him distinctly painful to listen to, though, especially since I tend to think more than one step ahead in life.
At any rate, thanks for your educated (to be perfectly honest, I barely remember Reagan&#039;s administration at all... but I think we are of separate generations ;) ), thought-out response.  She may not really be Reagan, but Palin is probably the closest thing we are going to get for the time being.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, first, sorry about the delay in responding&#8230;  Been a hell of a few days.  Second, you are right, David &#8211; When you put Palin and Reagan side by side, she simply does not measure up to his metric.  <em>That said</em>, in my limited and still naive perspective, she is about as close as we are going to get to him in this time.  You are right (again) &#8211; public speaking has basically boiled down to rabble-rousing, giving people what they want, bread and circuses, and generally catering to the smallest common denominator.  Palin really did none of that.  Did she perform the oratory masterpieces that Reagan was known for in his time?  Not really.  Did she put the supposed oratorical master (Obama) to shame, being something of a newbie herself to the crowd?  Absolutely.  Of course, given the honestly poor quality she was going up against, that would not really be too difficult.<br />
Obama is a competent and surprisingly skillful speaker&#8230; to the crowds he speaks to.  He gets them riled up, gets them energized, and gets them moving in a common direction.  I find him distinctly painful to listen to, though, especially since I tend to think more than one step ahead in life.<br />
At any rate, thanks for your educated (to be perfectly honest, I barely remember Reagan&#8217;s administration at all&#8230; but I think we are of separate generations <img src='http://www.wallsofthecity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ), thought-out response.  She may not really be Reagan, but Palin is probably the closest thing we are going to get for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary's Thoughts</title>
		<link>http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2008/09/no_addition_required.html/comment-page-1#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosemary's Thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 22:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Who&#039;s Afraid Of Sarah Palin? Oprah!&lt;/strong&gt;

The Drudge Report had posted the fact that Oprah is refusing to interview Sarah on her program, so Oprah sent out her typical backstepping (backstabbing) response. I hope Sarah refuses her invitation AFTER she is Vice President!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Who&#8217;s Afraid Of Sarah Palin? Oprah!</strong></p>
<p>The Drudge Report had posted the fact that Oprah is refusing to interview Sarah on her program, so Oprah sent out her typical backstepping (backstabbing) response. I hope Sarah refuses her invitation AFTER she is Vice President!</p>
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		<title>By: Rosemary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosemary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice. David does have a point, though. I wrote a post stating that she hit a home run. I was referring to the fact that SOMEONE...ANYONE...took on the Democrats. I&#039;m so tired of being walked on, sometimes I even think of running just to shut them up! Hey, I can dream, eh? ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice. David does have a point, though. I wrote a post stating that she hit a home run. I was referring to the fact that SOMEONE&#8230;ANYONE&#8230;took on the Democrats. I&#8217;m so tired of being walked on, sometimes I even think of running just to shut them up! Hey, I can dream, eh? <img src='http://www.wallsofthecity.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I heard The Speech when it was first made. I&#039;ve heard it since. And Wednesday evening&#039;s speech by Sarah Palin as not The Speech. It was good, very good, and in today&#039;s climate of a debased, subliterate society, a political clime dominated by stumblebum, halting, lame speakers such as The Obamassiah, Sarah Palin&#039;s ability to speak clearly, plainly, forcefully and compellingly--though no better than simple basic rhetorical competence--stands out as a lily in a field of dog feces.
BTW, Reagan&#039;s rhetorical skills were mediocre for his day, as well... as I thought at the time. Seriously. But as simply &lt;i&gt;competent&lt;/i&gt;--not great--musicians are &quot;weapons of shock and awe&quot; when compared to the mind-numbingly UNmusical crap of &quot;top 40&quot; noise, &lt;i&gt;competent&lt;/i&gt; rhetoricians make the usual political speaker sound like the plopping noise from a horse&#039;s rear end they really are. Heck, Palin&#039;s delivery of &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; speech--and although she had help from a fine spoeech writer, it was &lt;i&gt;her&lt;/i&gt; speech, just as even Peggy Noonan admits the speeches she wroote for Reagan during his presidency were &lt;i&gt;his&lt;/i&gt; speeches--was the best thing at the convention, an order of magnitude (that&#039;s 10X) better than even Giuliani&#039;s above average speech.
In order to find a speech &quot;as good as&quot; The Obamassiah&#039;s convention speech (a little better, in fact, and no worse), in both content and delivery, one had to wait for Juan Mexicain&#039;s speech last night. Common political speech fare. Not exactly bad, but not really worth expending much energy analysing or even thinking about.
But of course, the Mass Media Podpeople&#039;s Hivemind never noticed the repetitive, monotonous, vapid, &lt;i&gt;boring&lt;/i&gt; nature of Obama&#039;s actual words in his convention speech or his poor delivery (my old--really old by now, if she&#039;s even alive *heh*--high school speech teacher &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; have given Obama and McCain &quot;C&quot;s for their convention speeches, were she feeling particularly generous, but probably not). Why should they even be able to? The Hivemind lobotomizes Mass Media Podpeople as its first operation in creating a new bud of the Hivemind.
Amid such a malodorous miasma of political speech, Sarah Palin&#039;s speaking abilities smell like a rose, so it&#039;s no wonder even Michael Reagan thinks of a similar--more mature, more literate--rose that stood out amid a similar, though slightly less debased, atmosphere.
Palin&#039;s content and delivery Wednesday evening--heck, her extemporaneous speech in the interview with Maria Bartiromo that aired August 29--was refreshingly competent persuasive public speaking, which in today&#039;s society equates with a &quot;home run&quot;.
Disclaimer: Since I grew up half a century ago surrounded by genuine masters of public speaking (and even have a 40-year collection of &quot;speeches&quot; made by one of them in his prime), my standards may be a bit skewed. Still, it pains me to hear what usually passes for compelling speech (Obamassiah! Obamassiah! Obamassiah!) nowadays.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I heard The Speech when it was first made. I&#8217;ve heard it since. And Wednesday evening&#8217;s speech by Sarah Palin as not The Speech. It was good, very good, and in today&#8217;s climate of a debased, subliterate society, a political clime dominated by stumblebum, halting, lame speakers such as The Obamassiah, Sarah Palin&#8217;s ability to speak clearly, plainly, forcefully and compellingly&#8211;though no better than simple basic rhetorical competence&#8211;stands out as a lily in a field of dog feces.<br />
BTW, Reagan&#8217;s rhetorical skills were mediocre for his day, as well&#8230; as I thought at the time. Seriously. But as simply <i>competent</i>&#8211;not great&#8211;musicians are &#8220;weapons of shock and awe&#8221; when compared to the mind-numbingly UNmusical crap of &#8220;top 40&#8243; noise, <i>competent</i> rhetoricians make the usual political speaker sound like the plopping noise from a horse&#8217;s rear end they really are. Heck, Palin&#8217;s delivery of <i>her</i> speech&#8211;and although she had help from a fine spoeech writer, it was <i>her</i> speech, just as even Peggy Noonan admits the speeches she wroote for Reagan during his presidency were <i>his</i> speeches&#8211;was the best thing at the convention, an order of magnitude (that&#8217;s 10X) better than even Giuliani&#8217;s above average speech.<br />
In order to find a speech &#8220;as good as&#8221; The Obamassiah&#8217;s convention speech (a little better, in fact, and no worse), in both content and delivery, one had to wait for Juan Mexicain&#8217;s speech last night. Common political speech fare. Not exactly bad, but not really worth expending much energy analysing or even thinking about.<br />
But of course, the Mass Media Podpeople&#8217;s Hivemind never noticed the repetitive, monotonous, vapid, <i>boring</i> nature of Obama&#8217;s actual words in his convention speech or his poor delivery (my old&#8211;really old by now, if she&#8217;s even alive *heh*&#8211;high school speech teacher <i>might</i> have given Obama and McCain &#8220;C&#8221;s for their convention speeches, were she feeling particularly generous, but probably not). Why should they even be able to? The Hivemind lobotomizes Mass Media Podpeople as its first operation in creating a new bud of the Hivemind.<br />
Amid such a malodorous miasma of political speech, Sarah Palin&#8217;s speaking abilities smell like a rose, so it&#8217;s no wonder even Michael Reagan thinks of a similar&#8211;more mature, more literate&#8211;rose that stood out amid a similar, though slightly less debased, atmosphere.<br />
Palin&#8217;s content and delivery Wednesday evening&#8211;heck, her extemporaneous speech in the interview with Maria Bartiromo that aired August 29&#8211;was refreshingly competent persuasive public speaking, which in today&#8217;s society equates with a &#8220;home run&#8221;.<br />
Disclaimer: Since I grew up half a century ago surrounded by genuine masters of public speaking (and even have a 40-year collection of &#8220;speeches&#8221; made by one of them in his prime), my standards may be a bit skewed. Still, it pains me to hear what usually passes for compelling speech (Obamassiah! Obamassiah! Obamassiah!) nowadays.</p>
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